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Tammy Buck

Tom - Who is going to purchase these convertible securities? In other words, how is the distressed bank going to come up with the cash? Someone in the market place has to be willing to buy these securities, right? Or am I missing something important?

thanks, Tammy

The Accounting Onion

Tammy,

Co-Co's will be issued when a bank is healthy. The bank will have to offer a higher interest rate than straight debt, so it will increase the cost of doing business.

Conversion of the Co-Co reduces the probability of bankruptcy, because the bank no longer has to pay any of the debt service.

Let me know if this answers your question.

Best,
Tom

David

In your example, where the company has outstanding common stock, common stock call options and Co-Co debt, is it really accurate to say that the accounting treatment of the calls and the Co-Cos differ for no good reason? The call options can only be settled by delivery of common stock, while the Co-Co debt, depending on the course of future events, may be settled either by delivery of cash (at maturity, assuming no conversion) or by delivery of common stock upon conversion to equity. In that sense, do the Co-Cos really differ from any other convertible debt instrument, where the holder has the option of converting or not converting and receiving repayment of principal at maturity? In the case of the Co-Cos, the conversion decision may be out of the control of the holder of the debt, but until conversion is triggered, the debt can be settled in cash.

Thanks, David

Accounting Onion

Hi, David:
To my way of thinking, the income statement is for portraying the earnings available to the existing common shareholders. That's why interest is an expense (and, incidentally, dividends to preferred shareholders should be). Neither the Co-Co holders or the options holders are current common shareholders. When the shareholders win, all other financial stakeholders lose, and vice versa.

I hope that explains why in terms of classification of the right side of the balance sheet, to me there is common stock -- and everything else.

Steve

Hi Tom,

Good discussion at the round table. I share your outrage at the push by Big 4 to adopt IFRS in US.

One area that few people talk about when debating whether IFRS is "high quality" is exactly the "QUALITY" of the IASB board members.

IASB is definitely "high quantity" (15 members), but the "QUALITY" is far from being "high".
One can easily tell that when listening to their discussions at the public meetings. Take the liability-equity project, hedge accounting among others, some of the board members make one wonder if they even understand the subject well.

I understand that some of them are likely political appointees (based on the amount of contributions from particular region). But how could one write "High Quality" standard if the board members themselves display lack of decent knowledge in the subject matter?

John Smith, one of the few knowledgeable IASB board members, in an intereview Deloitte, admitted that the increasing size of the board is not equal to increasing quality of the board. I'd say that the opposite is probably true with IASB.

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